Is it okay for Christian leaders to raise doubts about a politician's faith religion and faith? CNN's John King reports.
No! It is not! Such silliness coming from sun worshiping crazy people. Question all you want. I hope Obama laughs at him for being so tiny minded to believe in any religion and to question that fact that our President does not believe in some great white guy in the sky and his zombie jew son.
In regard to last night 's show with Bob Jones' comments on Obama's relgioin: intolerant indeed. Your followup on how Jesus would respond in terms of tolerance was accurate to a point. Jesus was very clear that he was and only He was the Son of God and no other. He taught holiness and purity, not tolerance in the sense that we are not to take a stand against immorality or tolerate behaviors that our culture has come to accept as acceptable.
Jones' entire background is uncolored (as in, unaccepting of colored races), which likely plays an important role in his judgment of the President, sadly. Not to mention Republican party=conservative Christianity in Jones' book. Anything else=liberal, socialist, communist, gonna destroy America. Likely what is really at work here is Jones is attempting to remove the limelight from negative attention that could potentially spotlight him and the university for allowing a pastor as a current board member who was involved in covering up a rape of one of his church members and making her confess before the church. (Think a situation similar to Penn State.)
However, this newscast is coming from CNN News. The Bob Jones crowd only gets their news from Fox News. All other news is purported to be media biased from a liberal-agenda'd media. Excellent report, but the BJU crowd will cry "religious persecution."
But don't let Jones color your views of Christianity. I am not here to judge whether or not he is a true Christian–that is not mine to judge. But the Bible does say, "By this shall all men know that you are my disciples, that you have love for one another." Let that be the compass by which Christians are judged. Jesus died for all mankind, and through Christ's death we have access to the throne of God. All are welcome.
And to those who wonder at Bob Jones' "uncolored past," here's an interesting piece put out by the founder of Bob Jones University. It's entitled "Is Segregation Scriptural." http://www.scribd.com/doc/55220256/1960-BJSr-is-Segregation-Scriptural
Very, very interesting link. Explains some of the hostility some older generation individuals have towards people of other races. Being called "Satanic propagandists" for supporting integration explains the disgusting hatred when that took place in our country. It's sad when people twist the Bible to conform to their way of thinking and the culture they live in. More proof we should each read and know the Bible for ourselves.
John, I am a grad of BJU and have lived in the Greenville, SC area for 15 years since graduation. I have many friends who have also attended and/or graduated from BJU and many friends who even work at BJU to this day. I say all that to establish the fact that I know BJU and its people and culture very, very well. And what I want to tell you is that Bob Jones III speaks for himself and himself only. Certainly, there are other who agree with his uncharitable comments and personality, but the vast majority of BJU grads are increasingly appalled with the things he says ans saddened at how he consistently fails to reflect the love of Christ. Please don't allow his words to distort your opinion of all BJU-related people.
BJU has on it's board a man who mishandled the rape of a 15 year old girl. Dr Jones refuses to remove Chuck Phelps from the board.
Bob Jones University also has a trustee who covered up a rape and sent the victim to another state so she couldn't be questioned about it. You can read about it here: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/chuckphelps/
I think the last two posters were both posting about the same person.
Remember there are always two sides to a story.
Dr. Chuck Phelps has never been convicted of or, as far as I know, even charged with any crime. Dr. Phelps reported the rape to DCYF and the police and even has the date and whom he spoke with proving he did this. They failed to take proper action. Tina's mother wanted her to be sent away to a safe home where she could be educated and cared for during the pregnancy (Tina's mother had some health problems that may have made it difficult for her). She also wanted to ensure that Tina would not be in contact with the perpetrator, whom her mother to this day claims her daughter was willingly involved with (though, of course due to her age it was still rape, morally reprehensible and inexcusable). It is interesting to note that while Dr. Phelps and Tina's mother both made reports to authorities, Tina refused to do so. If the police had done their job this would never have become a story in the first place. Dr. Phelps admits that if he could do it over again he would have been much more agressive in pressing for police to act, and that he never would have agreed to allow the young woman to stand and read a statement in front of the congregation as Tina wanted to do at the time. In spite of any mishandling on Dr. Phelps or the church's part it is a serious and unfounded charge that he was covering up a rape. The girl going to another state did not mean the police couldn't question her about it. They could have called her mom to find out where she was and she would have been legally obligated to tell them where she was. The fact of the matter is, the police simply failed to do their job. Ernie Willis, the perpetrator, was convicted of rape in 2011 and everything that I have written here has now been confirmed in court testimony by Dr. Phelps, Tina's mother, Concord police, and the health professional who Tina's mother took her to to be examined (by the way, the health professional, unilke Tina's mother and Dr. Phelps, FAILED to contact the authorities. Maybe ABC should have done a story about that individual, about Concord police, and about the shoddy job done by DCYF).
You can find out more of the other unreported side of the story at http://www.drchuckphelps.com/
By the way, ABC LOVES making preachers look bad. They actually had to apologize to a preacher for completely taking a video clip completely out of its context and making it look like he was saying something he actually was not saying.
Here's an excerpt from a story about why they had to issue a public apology:
"The story - called "Enough!" - aired onABC's "20/20" and "Good Morning America" in March 2007. In the segment, reporters questioned whether ministers of several large congregations had used church contributionsto support lavish lifestyles.
To prove their point,ABC News included a 10-second clip of a previous sermon by Price where he said, "I live in a 25 room mansion, I have my own $6 million yacht, I have my own private jet and I have my own helicopter and I have seven luxury automobiles."
But Price wasn't preaching about himself. He was presenting a hypothetical situation about a person consumed with wealth..."
You can check the rest of that story out here:
So much news today is nothing but tabloid journalism. Anyone who wants to smear anyone's reputation for any reason can usually find an avenue to do it. Just though a few people may want to get a different perspective on this story.
I don't know why people are so quick to quote scripture when it serves their purpose and then deny the fact that the God who inspired scripture even exists with distainful tones. I think outside criticism is not always "christian" as you so call it but complimentary in a way because if someone cares enough about you to criticize you then at least they pay attention to you. Yes negative publicity is not always helpful in some ways but I would say that Dr. BOB's public criticism actually has helped his political career by taking a subject surrounded in doubt and casting a new light on it and it's importance or lack therof. When it comes down to it, america could have a buddist president and we would be fine as long as the political agenda's were in line with the best interest of the country. We have yet to see how the current president's agenda's will affect the country, christian or not. I know it's probably not worth mentioning but I'm sure as any one person can know the news has failed to be unbiased in opinion regardless of the publisher and channel because each news reporter is going to have their own opinions and beliefs just as Christians do. The key here is to realize that we're all human and prone to doing stupid things at anytime. Unfortunately, some of us are less tackful then others and end up putting our foots in our mouths on more than one occassion in any one day. Therefore, aside from those carrying their packs of resentment one can say, inappropriate sure, unreasonable no. We're all currently entitled to our own opinions and theories just as the world is entitled to disagree with us.
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